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This is just going to be a rant about something that has been on my mind for a while.

I keep hearing people, religious or atheists, say "You have to pick a side. Picking a side is important. Are you religious or atheist? Picking a middle way like agnostic is cowardly"

You want to know what side I'm on? I'm on the side of I want state and religion to be separate and for it to otherwise not matter.

It's usually people who come from countries where religion still has a big hand in law who feel strongly about this, and I can understand why. Where they come from it is important, but the entire world isn't like that. In the part of the world I come from it doesn't matter if you're religious or not. 

You don't want the abortion because of your religion? Fine, no one is going to force you, but if you do, you can have it. You don't want to get married in a church or have your child baptized? Fine, we'll take care of that at the City Hall. You're gay and want to get married in a church, but the local priest doesn't want to wed you? Fine, the priest in the next town does.

It just doesn't matter. 

Of course, human rights comes first and you will be judged for shitty behavior no matter if you do it for religious reasons or just because you're an asshole.
Your religion tells you to have five wives? You might not all be married in the eyes of the law, but if you have some sort of ceremony that makes it more official to you and everybody's happy, then go on your marry way. You're forcing someone to marry you and keeping them against their will? In the slammer you go.

I'm what we call a culture Christian. I'm not religious but I like Christmas and I had my confirmation because I wanted the party and presents, and the church was happy to confirm me. They got something out of it, I got something out of it. Happy times all around. An non of it meant I or the priest who confirmed me are going to go out and burn down a Muslim family's house or bash the head of a gay baby in.

Which brings me to another point. If people are assholes they will use any excuse they have. 
If you hate gay people and you're religious? It's against the bible! 
If you hate gay people and is atheist? It's just plain disgusting!
Religion has started wars because someone just really wanted to fight someone and used their religion as an excuse, and it has helped millions because someone just really wanted to be nice.
Parents might tell their children that a group of people are horrible because the bible says so, but the children might still grow up to think that group of people are actually pretty awesome anyway and still be religious.
Religion doesn't make someone a better or worse person. It makes them exactly who they already are. Same goes for atheists.

That is how religion is looked at in my part of the world. It doesn't matter. How you act matters. You can take part in religious acts just because they're fun and the religious people will usually welcome you knowing you won't join the religion afterwards.

So that's the side I'm on. I want it to not matter.
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direwolph15 Featured By Owner 2 days ago  New member Hobbyist Digital Artist
You don't need to pick a side. I am an atheist, but I have many friends who are religious. I don't think being gay is wrong, even though i'm straight. I just think people should believe whatever, just not act stupid because the follow a book EXACTLY or argue all the time with others. Even if you are religious, people, that doesn't mean you have to follow the bible's every word. If you are an atheist, well, some people should be more accepting to people who believe differently. Having a different religion shouldn't make you not be able to have friends who are different. *End Rant XD*
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Lycanamu Featured By Owner 2 days ago
This is a good writing. :star:

I once heard a quote:

"Your beliefs don't make you a better person, your behaiviour does."

It just couldn't have been said better. I, personally, don't believe in anything supernatural, but I still don't consider myself an atheist, neither an agnostic (because there are little details that make it different). BUT I don't mock people for having religions etc.

It's just when people start bashing others' human rights because of their beliefs, I feel angry. At the point where people start saying "hating gays and opposing abortion is a part of my religion!!!1", their words become really tasteless. Oh, treating a certaing group of people badly because of the way the were born is a part of your religion? Wow.

Being gay doesn't hurt anyone.

Discriminating and even killing people because of one's beliefs does.

Nothing wrong with Christianity itself, though. I even know openly and proudly gay Christians and completely straight Christians who think that sexual minorities should have the same rights as everyone else.

Christian =/= intolerant asshole

Christian = believes in Jesus and stuff

At it's best, religion can be a source of emotional power etc., and so on.

I accept if some people are uncomfortable with gays or abortion. But these people feeling uncomfy don't have to be gay or abort their fetuses themselves. But those who do, they should leave alone. The problem is when these people make LBGT people's lives more difficult by spreading homophobia and trying prohibit women's (or other people's who have a uterus) right to choose what to do with their own damn bodies.

Jeeze, this world would be a better place if people were tolerant and not trying to force their preferences and beliefs on, for example, on their own children (think about gay children who grow up in a homophobic family... some end up killing themselves.. That's why EVERYONE should be able to be educated about how diverse can sexuality be and how it's all okay. It goes against children's rights to teach some kids that they're bad and wrong, and to the other kids to bully this different kid.)

My only belief is that you can do whatever you want if it doesn't mean stepping on other people's toes. I think nothing gives anyone a right to take rights away from a certain group of people or to teach others to hate this group of people.
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MarianaErwin555 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2014
I'm Christian and I agree with this... :)
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PrincessLuna1313 Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
*slow claps*
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Lunaleaf Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014
I just re-discovered your page through your journals. I'm glad I've heard of you before, because you say things that make my heart rest a little easier. It's nice to know that somewhere there are people that are perfectly happy to just be happy, and to let others do the same.
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Dreamscape195 Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2014
Humon, I've been searching for years for how to explain this point of view, and you nailed it. THANK YOU. X3 <3
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EmpressofDiamonds Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Unfortunately, it does matter. Tell me, why shouldn't I kill you for disagreeing with me? Why shouldn't I simply find where you live and kill you? The law matters, an law can only come from God.
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Roboturdo38 Featured By Owner 21 hours ago  Hobbyist General Artist
So I can't disagree with you?
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FigureHunter Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist Photographer
If you're going to follow a religion, and make statements about how 'law can only come from God', then perhaps you should actually follow the laws that are clearly, explicitly, laid out for you? :)

"You shall not murder." - Exodus 20:13
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Numbuh00 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Why shouldn't you kill someone for disagreeing with you? Because you're not a fucking psychopath, that's why! Seriously, if the only thing stopping someone from killing (etc.) is an ancient book, then that person is a bit disturbed. The thing stopping you from killing someone should be your own moral compass and your own conscience. If your conscience is telling you to kill someone for disagreeing with you (and the only reason you don't actually go through with it is because "God said it was a sin"), then there's probably something wrong with you. 
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